August 2, 2022

Transition From Busy Professional to Real Estate Fund Manager - Kevin Brenner

In the conversation with today’s guest, Kevin Brenner, you’ll learn how contrarian investing can help you achieve financial freedom through passive income. He'll also share his favorite time management and goal-achievement strategies for those that struggle to get focused or stay on track on their journey towards real estate investing success.
Billy Keels
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Going Long Podcast Episode 234: Transition From Busy Professional to Real Estate Fund Manager

In the conversation with today’s guest, Kevin Brenner, you’ll learn the following:

  • [00:31 - 04:17] Show introduction with comments from Billy.
  • [04:17 - 10:01] Guest introduction and first questions.
  • [10:01 - 19:17] The backstory and decisions made that led Kevin to this point in his journey.
  • [19:17 - 23:20] How Kevin came to the contrarian conclusion that investing out of state and long distance in Real Estate would be one of the key elements of the investment strategies that he has in place to help active duty military personnel achieve financial freedom through passive income.
  • [23:20 - 29:13] Time management and goal-achievement strategies for those that struggle to get focused or stay on track on their journey towards Real Estate investing success.
  • [29:13 - 27:10] How you can benefit from Kevin’s fund knowledge and expertise, and how he first became an expert fund investment facilitator.
  • [27:10 - 38:06] How liabilities and assets are not only about financial aspects, but also include other important things in life, such as Time.
  • [38:06 - 41:40] Rich explains what the term Real Wealth means, being the name of his company.  The pros and potential challenges to investing through a fund.


Here’s what Kevin shared with us during today’s conversation:

  • Where in the world Kevin is based currently: Washington D.C.
  • The most positive thing to happen in the past 24 hours: After launching a new webinar, Kevin and his team had 430 people register for it and the feedback from attendees via email has been extremely positive!
  • Favourite European city: Paris, France.
  • A mistake that Kevin would like you to learn from so that you don’t have to pay full price: Start with community, know exactly what it is that you want to achieve, and find the skills you need to get you there together!
  • Book Recommendation: Measure What Matters, by John Doerr – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Measure-What-Matters-Simple-Drives/dp/024134848X

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You're listening to the goinglong podcast with Billy keels, the number one podcast for long distance realasset investing.

 

00:32

Welcome to the go longpodcast, we're back once again to continue to help to educate you so you feelmuch more comfortable as well as confident investing beyond your backyard. AndI am your host, Billy keels, and I am really, really excited to welcome you backto today's conversation. Because this one is another amazing conversation,you're really gonna love. Today's guest, his energy, his enthusiasm, hiseducation, and also the fun that he brings to the conversation. So it's no,you're gonna get a lot out of it, especially if you're someone who's out there.And you're on the LP side of things, or the limited partner you're looking toinvest with others you want to learn, what are some of the different vehiclesthat are out there, one specifically we're going to talk to in today'sconversation about funds, but also just general knowledge as well. So one ofthe other things is really quickly. You all know, you continue to make thispodcast amazing, you continue to help the podcasts also rise through the charts,you're downloading the episode, you're sharing the episodes, it's absolutelyamazing. It's one of the things that I cannot thank you enough for. So thankyou so much for continuing to do that. Also, if you've not had a chance toleave your honest written review, as well as writing, let me know what you likewhat you don't like you're already starting to see more of the changes that arehappening. And that is one of the things that we are doing to continue to bringyou more value so that you get the actionable content that you need to getcloser to your goals and do that much faster. Also, many of you have alreadyrecognised there's a new home for every single podcast, get the transcript, youget all kinds of cool stuff, all you need to do is go to first gen cpe.comforward slash podcasts. And you can find every single podcast that over 220some podcasts, I think by the time you listen to this will be absolutelyamazing. So go check that out. Once again, it's first gen cpe.com forward slashpodcast to find every single podcast you've ever wanted to, to listen to. Solisten with that.

 

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If you have ever wanted tounderstand what it was like to go from a high paid role, or a busy professionalrole, and be able to parlay that into becoming a fund manager or investing withfund managers, and today's the conversation that you're really going to enjoy alot of content, talk to today's guest, and he is someone who is building an acommunity of over 57,000 people continuing to educate part of an amazing team.And you are really going to get a lot out of this conversation that we havewith Kevin Brynner with active duty passive income, and you're going to hearthat AdPR capital, with Kevin, just after this.

 

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Are you a busy high paidprofessional, someone that in the previous two years has earned $200,000 and isexpected to earn $200,000 this year. Or maybe if you file jointly, previously,you've earned $300,000 The previous two years and you're also expected to dothat this year. Or maybe if not, either individually or jointly, you have amillion dollars in net worth not including your primary residence. If you meetany of these criteria, then you're someone that the IRS considers to be anaccredited investor, that probably means you're someone like an enterprisesoftware sales executive, you may be an executive in a major corporation, youmay be a doctor, you may be a lawyer may be a high paid consultant, you mayeven work for a major sports franchise, the thing I know you have in common isthat you continue to do the hard work like you're doing 100% of the work. Andyou're only bringing home 50% of the reward because you continue to get crushedby your income taxes. If you're tired of this situation and you're looking fora new solution, then go to first gen cp.com forward slash going long. When youget there, that's going to help you to start the journey so that you can beginto take back control of your taxes take control of your time. And then alsothat means you're going to be able to spend more of the time that you want withthe people that you love the most. And that is the way that you're going to getthe personal freedom that you're looking for. So if you're looking to take backcontrol, go ahead and go to first gen cpe.com forward slash going along and seehow we can help you today.

 

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So if you want to understandhow to go from being well, let's say a very busy professional to transitioninginto a real estate fund manager thing, guess what? Today's the conversationthat you're gonna want to listen to until the very last word, the very lastword of promise. You know why? Because today's guests not only is a graduate ofthe University of Miami, where he has a bachelor's in atmospheric science, thatsounds super cool. He's also a former Pentagon Air Force meteorologists oh mygosh this is gonna be really really awesome. So the also to listen this he wasstationed in manage a team of seven in Kuwait. I think it was over in otherplaces.

 

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As as well, I'm sure he'sgonna talk to us about that. He's a blogger. He's a blogger. He is a person whocreates loads and loads of content. He's also the director of single familyeducation, as well as the host of the super, super, super popular podcast.Active duty passive income podcast gives me great pleasure to welcome totoday's conversation, Mr. Kevin Brenner. Kevin, welcome to show me. Hey, Billy,thanks for having me. Dude. This is exciting. I love your energy. And I lovethe the opportunity you're given me to help add value to your listeners. Yeah,man. Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely what's all about, like, I can already tell,we're gonna have to kind of do it like a time, stop. Because I'll talk to youforever. I can already tell just from the free conversation. I'm like, Man,listen, everybody's gonna love today's

 

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show. Spider Man. When youhost a podcast, it's like,

 

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exactly. We're back. We'revibing it's all good. So hey, everybody, definitely make sure that you checkout the video version because Kevin's got this like really cool. Like, I'm noteven going to tell you what it is. Because I want you to literally go check itout. And it's just something that definitely

 

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gives me

 

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I can't even say it, I'm allset and even said, I

 

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just gotta go check it out.Everybody go check it out.

 

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You'll be glad you did. Soanyway, check this out. Kevin, you you know this already. As our guest today asour special guest, you're gonna get five questions, you're gonna get two in thebeginning, you're gonna get three in the end. In the middle, you're gonna get abunch of questions. I just don't know what those questions are yet. So butwhatever the your answers are, I'm sure it's going to add massive value to thegoing long family. So I just want to jump in. Man. I want to get started withquestion number one, help me and the going long family understand?

 

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Is it that you live in theUnited States? I live in fabulous Washington DC, the nation's capitol, rightdowntown got I got a capitol view. Well, fantastic. You know, it's one of mywife's very favourite places in the US and so, fantastic. Appreciate that.Second question. And it goes back to the thing that is over your rightshoulder, that what I'm looking at the screen to the left, but and I'm notgoing to tell everybody what it is because you're gonna have to check out thevideo version. But listen, Kevin, help us understand that what is the mostpositive thing that's happened to you in the last 24 hours? Man last 24 hours?Well, not waking up with this little head cold and

 

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but, uh, man, honestly, it's,it's been? It's had to attend to be, I mean, call it 24 hours, called 72 hours,we've recently revamped our education programme, because like you mentioned,I'm the director of single family education. And we, we launched a webinar, amasterclass last Thursday, and I had 433 people register for this thing. And,and it was an unbelievable event. And I literally shared my entire story withall of these people. And I'm, and, you know, call it last 24 hours overnight,I'm getting emails from these people saying like, Oh, my God, that was anamazing event that did this and the other. And it was just a huge smashingsuccess. So I have to, on this podcast on this platform, I have to shout out toJoe Buchanan, Kelly Madden Nicole Beckham, that the entire team, Joe Campbell,who helped put this this event together, because I'm just the content guy. I'mthe guy behind the camera, the microphone like like you. Yeah, and you know,but as far as doing all that backend stuff is incredible. And I really do thinkin that hour, we significantly influenced the lives of active duty military andveterans in our community. Like, just like that, just because the feedback theresponse that you get, it's incredible. Yeah, man, I love that. And absoluteShouts out to your team. And yes, my team is the one that makes all this stufflook nice and pretty and sound great, and all that jazz. And, and thank you somuch for sharing that. Because when you can positively impact one life, it'samazing when you can impact 400 Plus lives. That is, you know, that's reallyscale. And that's been able to go out and add more positivity to the world. SoI appreciate you, you sharing that. And, you know, the one thing I also wantedto just say, Kevin, I just wanted to also recognise and thank you for yourservice as well. So something that is greatly appreciated. Also, I have to makekind of a little compassion if you don't mind.

 

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Going going long family knowsthis already. Kevin. I'm just just meeting you, man. No one else's.

 

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There's no one else is gonnasee.

 

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See the thing that's overyour right shoulder? Yes, of course, they're here.

 

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Here's the thing. So I try toget like, I like to keep the bar pretty high. And I keep a high standard andsometimes that makes me do things that are impossible to actually achieve. Oneof those things is try to tell your entire backstory like myself, tell yourbackstory, and I think it was like three and a half seconds. Never gonna neverever, ever was going to happen. But I try. I try you know, it's one of thesethings that I you know, like I said, I just kind of like to keep the bar high.So hopefully you will forgive me for trying something which is so absurd, butit's just what I

 

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Do but more importantly,could you help me? Like literally could you help me because the entire goinglong family really wants to know your backstory. And there's no two and a halfor three, three and a half second limit on you because you're the guest. So canyou please tell your backstory in your own words. And I'm also going to ask youfor one other thing, and this is really gonna help you go along family, if youcould talk to us about some of the major decisions that you've made along thejourney. And then we'll see where you and I take the conversation from there.Awesome. All right. So yeah, let's rewind the clock for four years, right, fouryears, four years come back from deployment, I was active duty Air Force, comeback from from the Middle East. And, you know, when you when you do that, foryour folks who are not in the military, it's all tax free pay, I was gettingcombat pay, I was getting tax free pay, I was in place in dangerous places. AndI had a lot of money. And I did the responsible thing. And blow it all motorcycles,Billy cars, Billy, all the things that you're supposed to do when you're, youknow, 25 years old, literally walked in the Ducati store, my 25th birthdaywalked out with a red 696 Ducati Monster 2015 of that motorcycle. I've sincegotten more, but that's my problem. The point is, I had no idea what the hell Iwas doing my finances. You know, I was I was a captain in the military, I wasmaking pretty good pay, and just spending it as fast as I can get it. Andfinally, at this point, I'm stationed in Savannah, Georgia. So down inSavannah, Georgia, and I'm in a volleyball league with a really good friend ofmine. And we're just playing, you know, casual practice, like beach volleyball.And you know, we're in between matches and, you know, he sits down he tossed mea beer in the cooler. We're sitting there talking, remember, like, it wasYesterday was Friday afternoon. And he just he tells me, he's like, Hey, man, Ijust closed on my seventh house. And I was like, you know, you didn't because Ioutrank you, I may make more money than you. So that's impossible. Number two,you can't pay seven mortgages, I have one car payment barely able to make that.So also impossible. And he's like, No, this is good debt. And I was like, whatding ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And, and, you know, going on, and he toldme, the tenants are paying this. And of course, my mind is just melting on thevolleyball court just had no idea what the hell is going on. He reaches intohis truck throws me Rich Dad, Poor Dad. And it's like one of the the cover wasripped off, it was all beat up, it was in the back of his truck. He's like,dude, if you're interested in this, or anything that I said, read this book,get back to me. 48 hours later, I'm at the bar with him. His agent is mortgagebroker is investor friends, is everything just completely plugged into hisnetwork just being a sponge, not really, like asking questions, but kind ofjust being there. And surrounding myself with these people and listen to whatthey're talking about. And, you know, and he's a West Point guy. And so all hisfriends are West Point guy, they're all army guys, or veterans or somethinglike that. And, you know, obviously, I have that connection, being in themilitary. And it was just, it was incredible. So you know, fast forward threemonths closed on my first quad Plex, you know, so it's a four unit apartmentbuilding, use my VA loan to get it. So zero down, I think, at the end of theday, I was at out about 3300 bucks. From there, we renovated the units, we'veover doubled the rent in the last three years. And that building that I boughtfor $350,000 is now worth over $700,000.

 

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You know, and, and at thetime, you know, I'm looking back like, wow, I'm really glad I made thatdecision. You know, like, you talked about decision making processes. I wasterrified, terrified, and, you know, no, no, I was doing but I knew that if Raycan can close on seven houses in two years, then I can close on one. You know,I mean, so I think the, the thing that gave me solace about this is knowingthat other people are doing it, and as long as you have the foundation, and ofcourse I was reading a tonne of books and listening to the podcast and doingeverything and doing the analysis and, and just really nerding out over thewhole process. But I dedicated myself to figuring out, okay, if these otherpeople can do it, why can't I and what I found is I can and then I did. Soafter I closed that first quad Plex a couple months later, got another oneright down the street.

 

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You know, so we got anotherquad Plex and that one I raised capital from my first capital raisingexperience brought in a college buddy of mine, living in LA, you know, makinggreat money just can't do anything with it in LA, you know, and, and, and, youknow, so we went in and we did a 6040 deal, I got the 60 he got the 40 but heput the you know what $85,000 downpayment on the building? Same story, youknow, we bought that for 318. We went in we renovated it, I covered that withthe cash flow and put that on credit cards and handled that business andhandled the management and all that stuff. But we've over doubled the rentsfrom when we initially bought it. And that one's worth $700,000 bought it for318. So you know we've forced appreciation and that one's cool because weactually added a bedroom to each unit. It was one of these old you know thoseold layouts where they had like the city

 

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room, you know, because atleast were built in the 50s. These apartments, they're big, like 1500 squarefoot. So we just put that third bedroom in there jacked up the rent to meet themarket value. It's been great. So it's, it's fantastic when you talk about

 

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increasing the rent to meetthe market value, right, because that means you are just in essence,recognising that there's an inefficiency in the market right towards the tailend of the store. There's a whole bunch of stuff that you talked about beforethat.

 

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And one of the things was,you know, you'd been for years and, and in the unfortunately, just come backand in you.

 

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You're playing volleyball.Next reminds me and I know, it's a different arm of the services. But itreminds me like, because everybody's talking about Top Gun and stuff like that.Maybe, maybe, obviously, maybe, obviously, but but this big scene, right? Youknow, everybody's the same thing. Okay, and you're in your back, and you'retalking about that. But

 

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hopefully everybody heard yousay one thing. You said that you were

 

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terrified. And you did it anyway.So I think a lot of times, well, no, I don't even think I'm sure. A lot oftimes, you face fear. And you kind of have two different reactions, right, andyou can move forward or you fall back. You mentioned that you were terrified,and you decided to move forward. Can you talk us through kind of what it wasthat you were terrified of? You mentioned some of the parts about theeducation, etc, etc. But it's just because Kevin, and I know you see this allthe time, and everybody faces fear. But very few of us actually talked aboutwhat it was a fear of what and what we did to actually move forward. So maybeif you could share that part before we jump into the other things, because thatthat one just really like when you said it, I was like, Oh my gosh, let's talkabout Yes, yeah. So and you're right, this is this is not a me thing. This isan everyone thing, and it happens in anything, you try something new, you trysomething new, you're going to be scared. And

 

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whether that's you're tryingbased jumping for the first time or bungee jumping for the first time, oryou're buying your first house for the first time, it's scary, you're making abig commitment. Right? And and humans, like you mentioned, you touched onBilly, it's it's kind of that fight or flight, it's in our human nature, rightwhere they're gonna, you know, that that bear is going to approach us out ofthe woods and where they're gonna fight it, or we're gonna run. And if thatbear and this metaphor is, you know, your your your audience is real estateproject or something that they're trying to acquire from Europe and into theUnited States. And they're like, well, I could figure this out. Or I could runaway and go and do something that I know. But it all boils down to fear of theunknown. And the only way to vanquish fear of the unknown is to make it known.You educate yourself, because I guarantee you people are doing this, peoplethat you probably know are doing this, but no one talks about it, it's kind oftaboo, at least in the United States a little bit taboo to talk about yourfinances. And if that's the same culture, then, you know, that's out there. Buthonestly, the book that helped me, and it's not my favourite book, we're gonnatalk about books later, but the richest man in Babylon, you read this book, andyou realise that, oh, my god, people have been trading real estate for 1000s ofyears. It's not hard. Like, it's really not hard. And you start to make thatfear of the unknown, unknown, and you start to empower yourself, and you getmore confidence, it's still gonna be scary.

 

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Life scary. If life weren'tscary, then it'd be boring.

 

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I don't like boredom. Andmost people that are here, right? Because you're already listening, you'realready watching. I'm curious if you've actually gone to the video version tocheck out what's over his right shoulder. But if you haven't, I'm sure you'llget to it eventually. And he's even pointing to it now. So so. So I can't teachthat anymore. I think that's about as much as I can tease that. So so the thingis, it's the foundation, it's the Educational Foundation, it is getting thetheoretical knowledge it is also you talked about surrounding yourself withother people. Because one of the problems I used to have is, I was atheoretical ninja, like, I knew every single thing that the books could like,talk about, but like three years in, they're like, Okay, so how many propertiesyou have? No, like, I know, the revenue minus operating expenses. Okay, on asecond. Let's, let's go back to that. So, so one of the things that you I'vealso talked about, and we're gonna get to them, the fun stuff, but

 

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it is. So one of the premisesof this show, right is we like, understanding about real assets, right? Andthat takes a number of different views. And I'm someone who has investedeverything from single never single family residences, but for smallmultifamily ATM machines passively. I've really now been doing a lot in theenergy sector. And so anything that is real, it's tangible that produces cashand has tied tax benefit, right.

 

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But normally, and youprobably saw this too, Kevin. In the beginning, everything was I assumed that Ihad to be a landlord and I had to buy a property that was down the street.

 

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For me, literally down thestreet from me, because that's kind of what the book said, Well, this is thegoing long podcast. So it's about helping people feel comfortable and confidentinvesting beyond your backyard. Now, I happen to know that you help 10s of 1000sof people

 

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across the globe, to reallyget involved in investing in that, just from a geographic perspective, is kindof a challenge. And it goes against everything that the books teach us, becauseyou're helping people to understand they live in one location, whether for ashort period of time or a long period of time. And they could be investingactively or passively in a location that's not even theirs.

 

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That's, that's so contraryand men like how is it that you even have the gumption to teach someone to dothat? Because it goes against what the books say? Yeah, I think I think you gotto flip that on its head, because our community active duty, passive income,we're all military, We're all veterans. And we all understand that where we are,is not necessarily by choice. So going back to my story, I close on that firstone, Billy, and I use a VA loan, right? So it's, for your listeners who aren'tfamiliar, it's a it's a product, specifically, an American product specificallydesigned for veterans, it's zero down, but you have to live in the property.You can't, it's not for and it's not designed for investors, you can hack it,and you can make that work, but you have to live in the property. Well, guesswhat I bought that, you know, three weeks after closing, I got orders toWashington, DC. I couldn't live in the property. So I got out of thatstipulation, obviously. But the point I'm trying to make here is that peoplejust get dropped orders and you go, you're going to Germany, you're going toEastern Europe, you're going to Spain, you're going to you know, wherever. Andthat just is what it is. So a lot of people, the vast majority of the military,or the American military feel a lot, probably a lot like your audience, wherethey're like, Well, how the heck, I'm American. And I'm too I can't even investin real estate because I'm stuck over here in Africa, or I'm stuck here in theMiddle East, or I'm stuck in Korea or whatever.

 

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But you can. And it allstarts with what we love to call the ADPi triad, which is learn network takeaction, and you touched on Learn building that foundation, you touch on networkhow important that is. But arguably the most important step is taking action.And people get that twisted. So often they're like, oh, taking action, likebuying a house, or buying something? Or like yeah, that's a big action step.But why don't you email a real estate agent? How about how's that for a littleaction step, break it down into small, tiny, tangible steps that you can take everysingle day and they will build and you'll start building momentum, you'll startgetting more confidence. And you'll get over this analysis paralysis that somany people find themselves in, because they think that they have to do it allalone. And at the end of the day, you know, it sounds cliche, but real estate'sa team sport, any type of real estate, it's a team sport, the way it's designedthe way it's, you know, the way it functions, it's, you're not doing it alone.So, yeah, so in the fact that you are not doing it alone. And I like to say allthe time here, hashtag teamwork makes the dream work, right. And it's aboutfinding others that complement the skills that you have, or being able to helpyou learn things that you currently may be ignorant about. And I mean, ignorantin meaning, lack of knowledge,

 

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ignorant and a lot of things.

 

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So one of the things that youtalked about, but I think it's worth sort of repeating or not sort of, butactually repeating. Because I used to struggle with this a lot. I am arecovering perfectionist. I'm okay to talk about that now, right? I mean,

 

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it's okay to listen, we'regonna help a couple of people.

 

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You got like, 12 Stepprogramme for me. Yeah, well, we break this down into three, it's, you know, wewant to make it simple, we want to make it very simple. 12 is too many, that'syou're going to the perfectionist thing where you go, Oh, God, I can relate, Ican relate. So here's the thing.

 

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talk to that person thatcontinues to is where you are where I am, and have to fight against right thatperfectionist in terms of trying to do everything at once. help that person tobreak down, literally, and I know you gave an example earlier, but it's worthrepeating. Because I see and speak to and I know you do all the time, peoplethat are stuck, because they're trying to do too many things. Maybe just oneexample about, you know, walk someone through like something that they'reoverthinking. Take them through, we went through, you can do three steps if youwant, or you can do up to 12, but they gotta be real fast. So how do you help?How do you help people with that? So so it starts and ends with with yourgoals. And there are so many people out there that don't write down theirgoals. They have the new year's resolution, right? Like I'm gonna lose 20pounds. Yes. But if you don't write that down, and you don't hold yourself, soit's not it's not the goal setting. That's really the problem. It's really theaccountability and the lack thereof. If you don't have an accountability systemset up in place, then you're you're not going to hold yourself accountable.

 

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And if you're not holdingyourself accountable, whatever you're trying to do ain't gonna get done. That'sjust a fact. So what I tell people is, who are who are in this boat who, youknow, they may have done all the education, they built that foundation. Andthey know, like, they got everything that they want. And maybe they even havetheir deal criteria fleshed out, and they're like, Yeah, this is exactly what Iwant. This is where I want it. I just don't know what to do.

 

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I encourage these folks tofind other like minded individuals, find a network, find a mastermind findsomething, and, and bounce the ideas off of these other people. Because notonly are you going to get direct feedback on your idea, but you're also goingto have a litany of accountability partners, who are going to say, Hey, Billy,I know you were trying to get that quad Plex, you closed on that yet? How's thatgoing? Do you have any questions? What is something that matter? Is that Yep,and when someone calls you out like that, one, it's like, oh, you know, andyou, if you haven't done it, you're like, Oh, crap, I really need to do it. Andthen the other thing is, is it kind of forces your hand, because as humanbeings, no matter where we live, every human I've ever met, has an instinct tosave face, like, no one wants to do it, like no one wants to be like, the buttof the joke or anything like that. So if someone's calling you on your stuff,then then you know, then you stand up, and you say, Yeah, you know, the, thisis or, or you own up and you say, you know, to be honest with you, I justhaven't been working on it. I've been scared about this, that and the other.And that opens that conversation up, that opens everything up to, to solve theproblem and work together. And then of course, when you're in a mastermind, youhave the opportunity to team up with other people. And you can together go muchfurther, just like you said, teamwork makes the dream work. So it's, um, I'm abig fan of masterminds. I'm a big fan of writing down your goals. And, youknow, and taking these little action steps every single day and finding somesort of accountability system accountability partner, whether they're otherhuman beings, whether you have a scoring system, or a rubric or something thatyou keep, whether you're doing, you know, OKRs, like like in this book thatwe're going to talk about later, whatever it is, do something because if you donothing, you will get nowhere.

 

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Yes, doing nothing definitelytakes you nowhere. And when you like one of the things that and sometimes maybeKevin, people don't actually say this, so I'm just gonna, I'm gonna dare to saythis.

 

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When you have theaccountability, because that's what's key. Having the goals one thing writingit down, takes it to another level, because then you're actually crystallising,what you have said you were going to do you didn't visualise it, you see it.And then you have to start taking the action. I love your analogy of you know,if you want to lose weight, you want to lose weight, what exactly are you goingto do? Are you going to drink more water? Are you going to do this? Are yougoing to whatever the steps are you you have to do that you have to keep trackof what you say you're going to do. Because if you don't keep track of it, whatgets measured gets done, as you know.

 

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But there's also this part ofYes, we all like to say face it, then you may actually find that youraccountability partners are helping you realise that you haven't really gottenclear enough on why you really want to do what you want to do. And you may findthat you have to reevaluate, really not just what you want to do, but why youwant to do it, because things are going to get challenging at some point intime. If your y is not strong enough. And I know it sounds cliche, you're justgoing to stop, you're not going to move forward. And so that is another reallypositive thing. Or one of the positive outcomes that having an accountabilitypartner and an accountability group can help you to get clear on the thingsthat you want to be able to do. If you're not clear on the why that your youraccountability partners will help you get clear. And then you'll find that youmove much faster, you start to take those steps that you've written down, andyou're getting closer to your goals and your dreams. So

 

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trusting that you're enjoyingtoday's conversation. And you know, if you're tired of getting crushed bytaxes, and you're looking for greater freedom, to be able to choose what youwant to do when you want to do it, make sure that you go to first ncp.comforward slash going long and see how we can help you today. Let's get back tothe conversation.

 

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So I want to talk a littlebit about funds, my friend, because I know this is something that you happen tobe very, very passionate about. And because you are also in the education area,help us understand what exactly is a fund? Maybe there are different types offunds and why would someone really want to find out more about that how thatparticular vehicle can help them get closer to whatever their goal is the onethat they're now clear on why they want. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, you know,just rewinding super quick back to my story. I had these multifamily smallmulti families and I moved to DC and it was just saying to buy something herethat cash flowed. And I knew the entire time that large multifamily is where Iwanted to

 

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Be. And I knew that being afund manager is where I wanted to be. So I started educating myself, I starteddoing exactly what we're talking about, I paid $10,000 for a course, on how toeducate on how to do funds, I net worked my butt off, I read every book thatwas available. And I just started doing that learn network, take action,surrounded myself with other fund managers, other hedge fund managers, I metpeople, I did these things. And I actually took action, I started my own privateequity firm,

 

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totally failed.

 

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You learned a lot youlearned. I listen to everybody, he's gonna tell the rest of the story.

 

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But, you know, it wasn't itwasn't actually I say that jokingly, because anything isn't truly a failure. It'sjust another way to learn lessons. And I did. And I learned so much. And Ilearned everything that I did wrong. We're going to cover that in the lastquestions. And I reversed the ship, and we rebuilt something from the groundup. That makes so much more sense. And what I learned was that it's not about afund or syndication or whatever. It's about a solution. And that's what ADPicapital is. That's what myself Victoria, Greg's out on the bar. Tim Kelly, EricUpchurch, Mark and sage, Spencer Thomas. That's what we've built. In JoeCampbell as well. We built the solution for the military community, becausewe've had so many people, we're up to 56 57,000 people in our militarycommunity, real estate, all real estate, all real estate investors, but they allcome to us, Billy, and they're like, Hey, I'd love to invest with you guys.What do you guys working on? Like, how can we get in? And at the time, we hadnothing. We said, well, we'll educate you, we'll teach you how we how we do it.You know, let me show you. And for some people, that's great for other people.Not great at all. So they aren't too busy. And and this that the other. So webuilt the solution. And really what a fund is to answer your question. It's aseries of special purpose vehicles, that is designed to raise and pool capitalin advance and then putting put that capital to work in different in our case,real estate projects. So we're a little bit different in that how we set up thefund is we set it up specifically for the military community don't have to bemilitary, you don't have to be American, you don't you can be foreign, you canit doesn't matter. But we set it up knowing our community and understandingwhat their barriers to entry were. And the number one was, listen, I don't have$50,000 to put into this. That's a lot of money. The second one is I'm notaccredited. I don't have a million dollar net worth or make $300,000 a year.

 

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I can't get into these deals.And the third one was, well, these deals are great, but there's so many freakinfees associated with them. I don't why am I even going to do this? It's just itjust feed me to death. So we looked at all of those looked at the competitionand said, All right, well, let's just $500 minimum.

 

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We set it up in a in a wayusing a reggae tier two, which is a more convoluted way of saying that we'reable to raise from unaccredited domestic and foreign investors. And from therewe went in and said no fees. No, we're not. We're not doing any fun level fees,nothing like that. And we're able to do that because we have the ADPiecosystem. Because on the other half of the education, the Tim Kelly EricUpchurch out on the bar, those guys, they're training, like I trained singlefamily, they trained the multifamily operators. And these guys are constantlygoing through and we have this thing called the MMA heroes, but they're goingthrough and the multifamily Academy heroes are finding deals and doing dealsclosing hundreds of doors a quarter. And so now we're in a position where we'retaking capital, we're raising capital from our community of 57,000. Militaryreal estate investors, pooling it in the fund. And guess where that capital isgoing right back into our community of operators who we taught to find deals.It's the API ecosystem, and it's a wonderful, wonderful machine. And we're justexcited to be able to kick it off. And, you know, from the investor standpoint,it's, you know, you get all the great things that you get about investing inmultifamily. Like, you know, you get diversification, you get tax benefits, youget cash flow, you get equity. It's great. Yeah. And so you know, one of thethings that, so, as you get these benefits, that thing is fantastic. And you'recoming back to your your tribe once again, right, you're learning you'renetworking, and you're taking action, and having a vehicle and I you know, andI'm a big believer in this, I personally don't believe that there is any oneperfect vehicle, there is no perfect vehicle because every single person'scontext is very different. And so what I love about what you are doing at ADPicapital is is really saying, Hey, listen, we know who we want to serve. In avery similar way I know who I want to serve, because I come from very specificbackground. And what I want everyone to hear is, you're very clear on who youwant to serve. And so that is the way that you are moving forward. That doesnot

 

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exclude anyone that wants tobe a part of what it is that you're doing. And so it's a very similar wayKevin, like, you know, software sales executives and executives working forenterprise software companies. And today we have, you know, clients who are inNFL franchises or we have clients who are big business owners and smallbusiness owners and people who are not software sales executives. But the thingof it is, is when you're crystal clear and you know how you want to help andwho you want to help, it also opens up a door for many people that are wantingto be a part of your mission, part of your vision and the things that you talkabout there really are following along with the triad which is being able tolearn being able to network and being able to take action so I love thateveryone from the going long family can also learn from your example and seethat the type of vehicles that you provide that are adding value through thethrough the funds I didn't know if there's anything maybe you wanted to add onthere yeah no there is because we recently we did a LP masterclass a limitedpartner so when you invest in a fund for your listeners out there, it's it'sit's a

 

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you know, real estate limitedpartnership, right. So you're you're a passive investor 100% passive, right.And we, we had this amazing masterclass at Eric Upchurch, and I ran and justanswered all of the questions, we had 25 questions that you should ask your atyour LP. And what we realised is at the end of that, while before that we knewthis, but what we stressed to the audience was, listen, there are great dealseverywhere. You can be in a syndication here, you can be there, you can beATMs, here you can be you know, you could be whatever. And they're great deals.

 

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It's not about the deal asmuch as is building trust in the general partnership, trust is the commondenominator, it's not capital, it's not money, it's not anything, trust. Andby, by meticulously building active duty passive income, over the past fiveyears, we've been able to, obviously build trust in our military community, butlike you said, it's non non exclusionary, we, we have people who invest with usfrom all over the world. And it's just because they know like, and trust us andfor for your audience out there. It's super, super important, especially whenyou're in these alternative investment opportunities, you have to be able toknow that you can get in touch with these GPS trust them and, and andunderstand that, hey, what they're doing is in my bet my own best interest,because that's really what it's about. Yeah, and being able to know like, and trustin the fact that we can connect with you here we understand what you what youare talking about. And also, you mentioned him a couple times, and you can goto the archives going on family because air cup church was one of like our veryfirst

 

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guests as well, a while ago.And so you can also hear Eric's, Eric's previous previous conversation and, andbe able to understand more about what what they're doing at ADPi. Capital. Soone one thing that I do want to ask you, Kevin, before we get into the goinglong, final three, because I can't believe it's almost that time.

 

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Maybe someone who has notbeen as familiar with and I don't want us to get caught up in the in thevehicle per se. But the funds because people have heard Okay, well, I'm justgoing to do this one specific type of investment opportunity. But can you talkto that person who's maybe it's a very first time with this today, and likeyou're the person who gets to educate them. When you talk about the the fundmaybe some of the pros for investing through a fund and then maybe one or twothings that people want to keep in mind that I don't necessarily want to callit a con, but just something that is that they definitely want to keep in mindjust for that, like one on one level of Yeah, pros and cons. Well, yeah, andeverything has pros and cons. So So putting that out there, you can call it acon because everything has it right? That's, that's that's decision making.Right? So with regards to the pros, so if your audience is familiar with like,Hey, I'm gonna invest in a syndication, that's a single asset 99.9% of thetime, it's a single asset.

 

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And that's great. And thatasset could be awesome, have great projections and great metrics and lookinggood and a great market. But God forbid, that goes salmson You're out, youknow, and every investment carries inherent risk. So you have to understandthat when you go into these, right, that's just how it goes. But when youinvest into a fund, you're taking a more diversified approach because, youknow, our funds specifically I can't speak for other funds, but our fundsspecifically were in two large BNC multifamily. We're into mobile home parks,we're into self storage facilities. And you know, we touch on other things likeshort term rentals, luxury short term rentals and things like that. So we'revery diversified in different with different markets, different operators,different business plans. So by sheer you know, statistics, really, it's itwould it would take some monumental something to happen to all of those thingsgo badly, right? Like you, you know, so So you're

 

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hedging a lot of risk thatway. So for folks who are, you know, a little bit more risk averse, and they'regetting into being an LP for the first time a fund is a potentially goodoption.

 

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On the on the other end ofthe spectrum, things that you want to look out for, is you might be sacrificinga little bit of return on investment, because in a fun, you're getting ablended return solution. Now, so if all, you know, we're this first roundequity fund, one, we're raising 10 million bucks, and that $10 million is goingto be put in a three to four different deals, if all four of those deals arehomeruns. Fantastic, everyone wins, the chances of that happening are, youknow, admittedly, you know, they're, they're probably going to be a couple, youknow, and I'm using a lot of baseball terms here, but singles and doubles,which is great.

 

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But maybe your audiencedoesn't understand baseball, so

 

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most of us are talking about.

 

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So. So, from thatperspective, you know, you might not get the 50% ROI, homerun Grand Slam dealthat you could get on a single asset, but you're getting a more diversifiedapproach, and you're hedging risk. So that's kind of the, you know, thebiggest, you know, thing that people think about there. Absolutely love that.And like you said, it's, it's a decision point. And, you know, every everyone'scontext is different. And this is just another vehicle Once again,

 

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it's another vehicle that youcan evaluate, if it's the right vehicle for you, then you move forward. If it'snot the right vehicle, well, then you're gonna get more education, and you moveto the side and say, hey, look, it's not the right time. And, and then you getmore education, you've decided it's the right time. So listen, so here's thething. Kevin, I told you in the beginning, man, I was gonna want to talk to youforever. And I just would like to keep talking forever. But you know what, wegot to have to get to the final three men thing is, I never asked any of ourspecial guests. And today, you are special guests. They go along final three,unless you tell me that you're ready. So are you ready? I'm ready. I was gonnabe really nervous. If you said anything other than I'm ready.

 

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I totally,

 

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totally, just leave, justleave it. Just wait and you will be okay.

 

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So here's the thing. Westarted with you over kind of that Washington, DC area. I'd like to bringthings back to this side of the pond, because this is like now my new adoptedhome side of the pond. And can you help us understand, Kevin? What is yourfavourite European city that you've either visited or still on your bucket listto visit? Yeah, listen, so

 

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my wife and I were supposedto go to Portugal, we got married in August of 2020. And we were honeymoon,Portugal, and the whole thing planned out is gonna be great. We didn't gobecause COVID You know, couldn't go. So you know, we instead of doing that weset up Airbnb around DC. And they've been very successful. And actually, lastcouple months ago, in April, we did our first trip to Paris, funded fully bythe revenue from our Airbnb ease, which was fabulous. And we say the boutique,

 

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boutique hotel, a throne besmall, you know, just loved it. So Paris is far and away. My favourite saywe're both my wife and I are huge architecture nerds. And she's a commercialinterior designer, she designs boutique hotels were living all around theworld. So we were just totally nerding out about that. And it was a phenomenal,phenomenal trip so far and away, Paris, we will be back. He said Paris in thereteam out on the small, which is absolutely phenomenal. So for everyone thatdoesn't know, most of the going on family knows, like I started my one yearsabbatical 21 years ago, in Paris, France, and I got lost along the way. SoParis is a big, I've got a big heart place in my heart for Paris as well. SoI'm glad that you had a wonderful positive experience. That was basically thanksto investments that you'd made you push through the fear you got into shortterm rentals, and that generated the capital for you to go over and enjoy yourtime in Paris, which is phenomenal. So here's the other thing. Question numbertwo, the goal on funnel three really has a lot to do with the things that Ihave seen and experience from having interactions with really successful peopleand Kevin, I would consider that you are someone who's extremely successful,you're impacting 10s of 1000s of lives on a consistent basis. And hopefully youwill agree with me Kevin, that you know, one of the things that separatesreally successful people apart from everybody else is that they unlike mostpeople, whenever they have a plan they put the plan together they go out andthey execute they get everything right perfectly the first time which thenallows them to go and move even

 

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I can't believe I said that.

 

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Don't worry Kevin is just ajoke.

 

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I was like oh my god

 

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how are we going to get himout of this one? Now it's a joke. It's a joke. Listen, it's I'd like to havefunny so in the entire going long family knows and they send a little calm

 

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intent and all that otherkind of stuff. But anyway, it's a joke. Because the thing is Kevin, successfulpeople make a bunch of mistakes, man, they make a lot of mistakes, the realityis really successful people probably make 20 to 50 times more mistakes thaneverybody else. It's just the reality.

 

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But hopefully now the firstpart was a joke. Now, this is not a joke, this is me being serious.

 

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The thing that reallysuccessful people do do every time, there is a relevant mistake, or learningopportunity, or call it whatever you want to call it. When it's relevant.

 

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Every single time they stop,they learn from the experience. And then really importantly, right there afterthey put different strategies, tactics and actions in place to minimise theprobability of that exact same thing happening again. Now, I don't reallynecessarily want you to dwell on or think about too much the the learningexperience or the mistake that was made, but really, what was the lesson thatyou took away? And I'd love for you to share the one lesson with me in the goalong family that you know, we need to hear today. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, Ikind of touched on it earlier, when I when I set up my first private equityfirm.

 

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You know, I knew full on whatI was doing, and how to do it and all this stuff. And, and I said, Oh, yeah, wefailed, we did this. But you know, we did invest in some projects. And thoseprojects had returns for under we raise capital, and we we did it.

 

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But the biggest thing, thebiggest mistake that I made was, I just assumed that my target demographic of,of investors was going to want to invest. You know, you just think like, oh,you know, at the time we were, we were looking at real estate agents, and theywere making tonnes of money in the American market, just, you know, all of thisstuff. But the biggest thing that I found over time was that these aresalespeople. And it's all about Commission's, and now And now and now andinvesting, it's a long, it's a it's got a long tail to it. It's aboutgenerational wealth. And they don't seem to understand that. And I thought, atthe time that I'm an educator, I can convince these folks, you know, I can talkto these people. And what I learned was that very few people were receptive tothat idea, because in their minds, they're like, Oh, well, I could just takethe 100,000 that I'm going to put with you. And you know, whatever, I can go inand buy a car, or I can buy a G Wagen. And it's all this stuff and get a taxbenefit, like they didn't understand,

 

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you know, about multifamilyreal estate, which I was surprised because they're selling real estate fulltime that they're selling, and then the, the relationship was verytransactional. So we ended up doing a full stop and looking at everything andsaying, Hey, this is not going to work. And partners and I looked and we decidedto part ways, peacefully and amicably, of course, but what I did was I tookthat lesson, and the real lesson was community. And I took that lesson and wentto market and such CEO of active duty passive income, and Tim Kelly and EricUpchurch, and others, and the founders and I said, Hey, we should do this. Andnot only we should do this, but I'm doing it, I know how to do it. And I willlead this effort. And it's going to be a smashing success. Because we have theelements that I didn't have before. Before I was only raised from accreditedinvestors. So you had to be a really, really top producing real estate agentpretty much.

 

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Or, you know, and of course,then, on top of that the educational gap, the knowledge gap was there. So whenwe looked at it this time, we said no, no, we're going to do structure thisdifferently. Yeah, sure, it's going to be you know, 10 to 15 times moreexpensive and legal fees to set up. But that's worth it. Because our communityis worth it. And our community will appreciate this. And we did that we removethose barriers, we remove the high minimum investment, we remove the accreditedinvestor status and, and we brought everyone into the ADPi ecosystem. And bydoing that, we've really unleashed the power of the community that we've built.

 

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Because up until now, thatcommunity was

 

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great, and they're amazing.They're asking questions, and they're doing stuff and they're learning andthey're educating, they're teaming up and they're partnering, but now they havethe opportunity to team up with us. The people who the reason they came intothe community because they saw us doing these massive deals. And thecrowdfunding option it's just really exciting. So if your listeners areinterested at all in crowdfunding, you can you know, you can look that up andand give it a give it a Google and look up reggae tier two and just understandthe differences is really really, really cool. And like we talked about has itspros and cons. But it's, it's something that I think is really going to changethe face of active duty passive income, and it's going to help 1000s and 1000sand 1000s of people, which you know, being able to help 1000s and 1000s ofpeople is absolutely fantastic. And we're gonna give everyone an opportunity toto specifically know more about what you're doing and about your reggae to fundhere in just a couple of seconds if I keep my mouth shut and get to that

 

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horn. But you know, I like Ilike chatting with you but and also to it's, it's being able to recognise thatthe lesson here is really being able to start with community being very clearwith what it is that you want to do start with community and being able to thenbuild from there, which goes back to what you talked to us about a number oftimes, which is really helping people to learn helping people to network, andthen more importantly, be able to also take action to move from theory toactual practical knowledge, application and experience.

 

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But I've got to ask youquestion number three.

 

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And then I'll let you go.Not, not literally not literally, because I have a couple things to say afterthat. But anyway, listen, here's the thing. So we talked about the knowledge,for those of you who are watching the video version you've already seen,because he's kind of showed what he's going to share with this already. Andhe's pointed this thing you got to see it, you got to see it. So here's thething. So help us understand, because it's about filling, filling our mindswith knowledge. What is one book that you would recommend to the hormone familytoday? Yeah. So, you know, for folks who are trying to get their mind wrappedaround kind of goal setting and understanding that the book I'm reading rightnow is called measure what matters. And it is incredible. It's about objectivesand key results. And it's about the system that it's the same system that isimplemented at IBM, Intel, Google, you know, Adobe, like all of these massive,and I'm sure you're familiar being software. Yeah, it's one of the requiredreading required. Reading. Yes, yeah. And it's, it's incredible, and we'relooking at, we're implementing that, and we're looking at traction for our owncompany here. But it's helped me clarify, you know, my goals and really havethat accountability system in place. And it's really great. And in today'sworld of, you know, software, project management tools, and all of that, like,you can do so much and you can get so clear on where you want to be. And Ithink that organisation is something that has helped me grow 10x In my ownpersonal business, it's helped ADPi be what ADPi is today, the largest militaryreal estate investing company on the planet. And like that, that is justsomething that, I think is you got to be clear about your goals, you just gotto, and you have to tie tangible quantitative data to that. And that's wherethe perfectionist Kevin comes out.

 

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See, we keep going back tothis, it's an inside joke with like us perfectionist, a recoveringperfectionist. So everybody, check it out, measure what matters. And don'tworry, if you're running on the treadmill, you're cooking or something likethat, we're gonna make it really easy, there's a little link, and all you haveto do is click the link and you'll go straight to measure what matters. So, youknow, I, like seriously like every single time these conversations like theyliterally fly by Kevin, I knew it was going to happen from the very beginning,we started chatting into it, like on the greenroom before. And then once we gotstarted and you're telling us about you know, you spent your your four yearsyou came back from your four years, you're in Savannah, Georgia, you're doingthe excuse the pun, the top gun scene, you guys are out on the, on the beach,but as Air Force, not not Navy, and and you have this conversation with the guywho's kind of like, lower rank than you. And he's telling you, he's getting hisseventh home and you know, your brain is going what in the world is happeninghere. And so then as your curiosity kicked in, and you realise like, hang on asecond, I gotta find out about this, because I just got this really coolDucati, and I'd like to get more of them. But if this guy is doing it in a way,then I need to find out about that. And so then you took action, right? Youunderstood who that person was, you started learning you were networkingalready early on. And then you decided to take action, you're sitting there,you're a fly on the wall you're absorbing, and then you start to take action,you get your very first, you get your very first quad Plex. And then before youknew it, you had to head out, but you had the first experience. And so then yourealise, like, how can you continue to do this over and over and over? The timeyou went out, you got your private equity that rose and then it crashed andburned. And then guess what you thought, you know, even though you were afraid,and you'd face the fear before it was time to face it again. And this time yourealise it wasn't about you doing it by yourself. You can you intentionallywent out and built community from the very beginning, you use something thatwas a disadvantage in the beginning, you turn that into an advantage. And fromthat point, not only have you come together, build an amazing team, an amazingcommunity, you continue to learn together, you continue to network together,and collectively more than 57,000 people globally, you continue to now takeaction together and so I know that you know, so many people in the go alongfamily want to understand like yeah, Billy Yeah, but he's already talked to mejust asking the question, man. So help us understand Kevin, what is the bestway for going long family to find out more about you what it is that you'redoing and also what you're doing at AdPR capital? Yeah, so the best wayhonestly, is just head over to ADPi capital.com. So as ADPi capital.com It's agreat little website built by yours truly, but again, perfectionist nerd.

 

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But it is very nice. It isvery nice website. Go check it out. It's gonna break down everything that youneed.

 

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Eat and if you're looking totake that little action step that little tiny action step you know what as Isay this because most of your audience is European it might not actually workwe have a text a text and number but don't worry there's a lot a lot of peoplethat are in the United States and people USA Canada a lot. So okay, so if youhave if, if you want to get involved, and you want to get on our tax list, it'ssuper, super easy. All you do is you text ad P ai 233777. And what that's goingto do is going to give you the information get on the email list, and you'llget everything that you need. Also, when you go to our website, definitelycheck out the LP masterclass, it is an hour and a half of pure value valuecontent, no pitch, no spin just this is if you want to be an LP and somethingthese are, whatever, this is what you should do. And we're talking, you know,with Eric Upchurch, who's an LP and 1500 doors, so he's been around the block.

 

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He knows a thing or two, heknows he knows a thing or two. And of course, listen to the Billy's podcastwith Eric to learn more about Eric. Yes, exactly. And if we can find thatbecause I don't have it right here. And you can even include that that link tothe podcast with Eric. And then we got to have the two of the gentlemen fromAdPR capital and you can learn w w learning. So listen, Kevin, I know it wasgonna be a blast. Lots of value really appreciate you deciding to invest yourtime with me and the entire going long family man. And I just want to say thankyou very much. And I really, really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, man.All right, awesome. Give me like literally 15 seconds, and we're out of here.So listen, everybody. I mean, I don't even think Kevin could have done it anybetter. I mean, he talked to you about the theory, he gave you the very likevery simple steps that you can take to be able to take action, push throughyour fear have your accountability partners, he's also helped you to understandabout learning about networking, and also, most importantly, is about how youtake action, moving towards your goals much faster and also not by yourselfwith others. So take today's conversation, take action, right, share today'sconversation with two or three of your friends. It's gonna allow you to go fromthe theory to the practical application of the knowledge that you've heard. Soas you're doing that, I'm going to be here preparing the next conversation. Sountil then go out and make it a great day. And thank you very much.

 

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Trust that you enjoy today'sconversation. And once again, today's conversation was sponsored by firstgeneration Capital Partners. If you're an accredited investor want to find outmore about how we're helping accredited investors to gain their personalfreedom even faster. Go to firstgencp.com forward slash going long.

Billy Keels
Founder & CEO of FGCP
Billy is on a mission to share a roadmap and opportunities with other extremely busy, high-paid professionals on how to find financial freedom through investments. Listen in to learn how!
Guest speaker
Kevin Brenner
Co-Founder at ADPI Capital
Kevin is an active real estate professional focusing on the acquisition, rehab, management, and sale of multifamily properties. He currently owns and manage 8 cash-flowing units out-of-state worth approximately $1.2M, and manages short-term rentals in the local Washington DC market.

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